[SgtL] THUD RUNES

this is only an interesting observation with no real content. In the thud set, the thudstone has "trollish" and "dwarfish" RUNES* on the sides (along with english)

I in my curiosity, when inspecting these discovered that the "trollish" is actually Ogham and the "dwarvish" (similar if not same to what Tolkien used) is actually Futhark (old norse runes)

The dwarvish is: ᚦᚻᚢᛞ (sorry it's so small) which transliterates to ÞHUD the extra H is unnecessary as the norse had (and iceland still has) special characters for thorn and this called thorn and eth respectively. and the U would probably have sounded like the genram "Unter" not the englush Up but hey.

(for those of you who don't know Þ is called thorn. it makes the "Th" sound in words like thorn (thorn) thrall (slave) thing (meeting) all of which are norse words)

the ogham on the other hand is ᚇᚒᚆᚈ read right to left spelling TÚUD (the ogham had it appears neither H nor Þ)

so that's a bit of trivia for you.

*said in a thick scottish/welsh/nordic/who-are-you-kidding-you-can't-tell-them-appart-anyway accent

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Re: [SgtL] THUD RUNES

Bronze MemberDruid

I didn't realize that the second set of runes was Ogham, but I noticed the Futhark ones. So there is at least "Thhud" engraved on the stone. I trust your translation of the Ogham runes, so I suggest that "Thhud" is ancient dwarvish.
I have not and will not check with Tolkien's Angerthas (which uses mostly Futhark runes) as he just copied the signs and used them at his own liking. Remarkable is in this context, however, that those runes were in Tolkien's work mostly used by dwarves. So I would take the Ogham ones for Troll's runes.


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Re: [SgtL] THUD RUNES

i think that's what I said as well, futhark-dwarf if not, my appologies


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Re: [SgtL] THUD RUNES

Bronze MemberLibrarian

don't take it badly, but you guys are mad. and i got no idea what you're talking about...


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Re: [SgtL] THUD RUNES

you have the thudset right? ITRW?


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Re: [SgtL] THUD RUNES

Bronze MemberLibrarian

yes i do. and i know you're talking about the runes on the stone, but the rest.... :-S


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Re: [SgtL] THUD RUNES

which part bothers you?


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Re: [SgtL] THUD RUNES

Bronze MemberLibrarian

everything.


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When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained. – Mark Twain

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Re: [SgtL] THUD RUNES

the runes are actually old langauges and are used to sorta phonetcally spell "thud"


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Re: [SgtL] THUD RUNES

Bronze MemberLibrarian

see, now that makes sense even to me.


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Re: [SgtL] THUD RUNES

but the original was better. beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttteeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


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Re: [SgtL] THUD RUNES

calm down there


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Re: [SgtL] THUD RUNES

ek nie sal nie!


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Re: [SgtL] THUD RUNES

hehe,try again..


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Re: [SgtL] THUD RUNES

nie ek sal nie?


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