I don't know how many people have been sent a clacks message yet, but I got one from Lee after I saw him in London a few weeks back, and I've just been having another look at it. At the top of the text in the pdf file, there's a line that apparently doesn't make sense - goes something like this:
AKMPK TWR7A 2007-07-26T16:33:56-05:00 54 GBCYRFF UNEEL
Now some of that I think I get: Starts with Ankh-Morpork Tower 7A - the clacks tower it's sent from, then a date and time stamp, telling me this message was sent on July 26th 2007 at about 4:30 pm. The 05:00 I'm not sure about, but I guess the 54 might be the number of the message - this is the 54th clacks sent, perhaps?
So what about the last two chunks there? Just junk? I wasn't sure it would be, cos knowing Lee for a while I just wouldn't expect him to put anything unneccessary in. So what does it mean?
As you may have guessed, I wouldn't be posting this if I didn't I think I had an answer: If you put a 13 place Caesar shift on that text, "GBCYRFF UNEEL" becomes "TOPLESS HARRY". And, for those that dont remember, or never read Jingo, have a look at the article on Topless Harry on the Lspace wiki. A little bit unnerving, but definately relevant...
Is anybody else scared?
Mr S
EDIT: changed the title now that I know what for sure that there are codes around













Re: Hey, guys - this is scarey...
Ohoh, is lee threatening you? be careful.
When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained. – Mark Twain
Save the rats, eat a dwarf!
Re: Hey, guys - this is scarey...
ouch. not nice
does a different shift bring a clear message?
PEOPLE'S WHOLE LIVES DO PASS IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES BEFORE THEY DIE. THE PROCESS IS CALLED "LIVING".
--
Actually, it was Lupus one time.
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It's not the admins, it's not the site. We have Tower7A and we control your messages for our own purposes! They only mean something to the whitest of hats.
The Gnu is everywhere, but like smoke disappears into the air...
The Smoking Gnu
--
"...We'll pick you up and take you away
and get down tonight!
Smokin, smokin..."
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errrrrm waht is a clack. what does it do?
So many penguins, so few recipes!!!
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new site gimik, like a greeting card i am lead to believe.
first you must check all other possibilities...but then agian, they did give us underliongs the submit button so u never know...
That ain't no English I ever dun heard!
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I've checked all the other potential shifts, and that seems to be the only one that produces any actual words... Who's this "SmokingGnu" fella tho - I dont think I've seen him/her anywhere on the site before?
MS
"LOOKS PERFECTLY LOGICAL TO ME"
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new guy, been around for 2 weeks.
PEOPLE'S WHOLE LIVES DO PASS IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES BEFORE THEY DIE. THE PROCESS IS CALLED "LIVING".
--
Actually, it was Lupus one time.
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ya i think ive seen him around a bit
That ain't no English I ever dun heard!
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errrrrm waht is a clack. what does it do?
To answer this about as fully as I can, (no mystery on that, at least) see here.
MS
"LOOKS PERFECTLY LOGICAL TO ME"
Re: Hey, guys - this is scarey...
i dont think those words mean anything. in the clacks attached to the announcement scrub linked to theres a completely different ending. its probably just a type of code or something.
PEOPLE'S WHOLE LIVES DO PASS IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES BEFORE THEY DIE. THE PROCESS IS CALLED "LIVING".
--
Actually, it was Lupus one time.
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I'd forgotten that there was different text on different messages there... I guess that does suggest a coincidence...
MS
"LOOKS PERFECTLY LOGICAL TO ME"
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uh, if i know lee and i don;t he's like a programmer and they are a derivative of engineers who are a derivative of physicists (go us) who are aderivative of mathematicians...they all HATE little bits left over. if it doesn;t have a purpose, cut it loose
That ain't no English I ever dun heard!
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then it must have a purpose - maybe its for marking each clacks, like the letters and numbers on bills.
PEOPLE'S WHOLE LIVES DO PASS IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES BEFORE THEY DIE. THE PROCESS IS CALLED "LIVING".
--
Actually, it was Lupus one time.
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I guess that does suggest a coincidence...
Coincidence be blowed - I should have checked this before I posted, but the letters from the clacks in the announcement are these
ZE OEBJA
If you put exactly the same shift on those letters (move each one 13 places round the alphabet), you get "MR BROWN" - who of course is the master lockbreaker in Hogfather. I'd accept that one message having a hidden discworld character in it might be a coincidence/chance, but two different clacks having text that can be "decoded" (if that's the right word) with the same method to give a recognisable name seems like something else...
MS
"LOOKS PERFECTLY LOGICAL TO ME"
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now it makes some sense
so, each clacks is marked by a name of a DW character, shifted by 13. does scrub get a prize for discovering that?
PEOPLE'S WHOLE LIVES DO PASS IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES BEFORE THEY DIE. THE PROCESS IS CALLED "LIVING".
--
Actually, it was Lupus one time.
Re: Hey, guys - this is scarey...
As one of the known members of the Smoking GNU it would be unfair to share what i think i know at least not in clear
So for those who want a go here is the header of a message sent to me.
AKMPK TWR7A 2007-07-26T16:22:15-05:00 120 FABERL YVGGYROBGGBZ
And as my curiosity has sometimes caused discomfort to Schroedinger's cat here is the header that i acquired from a clacks received by another member of this site
AKMPK TWR7A 2007-07-26T14:39:16-05:00 23 ORAGMRA
And for the easy route
double back decayed 12a
look below!!!
!!!q arhe eior hgnv eeaq ardr hgfb srmn nrhG
Where are we going and why am i in this handbasket?...
...Oh! always try to look on the bright side...
... Um anybody got any marshmellows.?
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he first one is Snorey Littlebottom, the second is bentzen, i think.
!!!q arhe eior hgnv eeaq ardr hgfb srmn nrhG
is thjat a code too? it doesnt fit the 13 shift.
PEOPLE'S WHOLE LIVES DO PASS IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES BEFORE THEY DIE. THE PROCESS IS CALLED "LIVING".
--
Actually, it was Lupus one time.
Re: Hey, guys - this is scarey...
he first one is Snorey Littlebottom, the second is bentzen, i think.
!!!q arhe eior hgnv eeaq ardr hgfb srmn nrhG
is thjat a code too? it doesnt fit the 13 shift.
Jryyv gfabg vapyr nevfv g;-)v jnfav prnaq qvqab ghfrd hnagh zrapb qvatb enbar gvzrc nqrap elcgv bavqv qguva xvznl unirz nqrvg gjbrn fljvg unyyg uruva gfvtn irvaz lcbfg vnyzb fg*** *bire ***** ****v azlce rivbh fcbfg gelva tgbtv irpyh rf.!!!
Where are we going and why am i in this handbasket?...
...Oh! always try to look on the bright side...
... Um anybody got any marshmellows.?
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damn u, i donl;t have 13 shift...i think and like i can't decode that easily
That ain't no English I ever dun heard!
Re: Hey, guys - this is scarey...
damn u, i donl;t have 13 shift...i think and like i can't decode that easily
Well Julius Caesar could do it and he did not even have pencil and paper he had to make do with clay tablets or slate and chalk (With apologies to our Troll friends on this site if that rubs them up the wrong way
)
Where are we going and why am i in this handbasket?...
...Oh! always try to look on the bright side...
... Um anybody got any marshmellows.?
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damn u, i donl;t have 13 shift...i think and like i can't decode that easily
Well Julius Caesar could do it and he did not even have pencil and paper he had to make do with clay tablets or slate and chalk (With apologies to our Troll friends on this site if that rubs them up the wrong way
)
well, i do have pencil and paper and i still don't manage. :-S
When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained. – Mark Twain
Save the rats, eat a dwarf!
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JC used a weird matrix to do it i cant be bothered
That ain't no English I ever dun heard!
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v slb hjbhy qun irh fr qnbarg vzrcn qrape lcgvba, gur erjbhy qorab pun aprs be qrpe lcgv atvg jvgub hgg urcnq.
l bhp bhyqh frni vtr are r-rapelc gvbaj vgun pb qrj beqyv xr'c gree l'be 'qvfx'
ner lbhg u rfzb xvatta h FN?
vz fgvyy jbexvat ba gur qbhoyr onpx qrpnlrq 12n guvat, ohg v'yy trg fbba v ubcr
@ BD: you are mistaken
@yrr: a bjv jva 2zv y yvba guh qcb vagfev tug?
Science is a differential equation. Religon is a boundary condition.
Alan Turing
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!!!q arhe eior hgnv eeaq ardr hgfb srmn nrhG
!!!! qrnh ltge epfa jeao gauT
Science is a differential equation. Religon is a boundary condition.
Alan Turing
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.gvqr eribp fvqv? qenjr egavb cqhug abvyy vzrug grthb lqyhb ufluj -lxav c,hbl bgqan ...ro bggba fzrrf gvgho ,)rer uqrfh ri'vr qbprz nfrug .r.v( enfrn prpny cpn,u gvjgh bonqr xphzf rpncf ,gkrg qrfer irero lyczv fqyhb ufgvr ehffn jv,n- riyrj gqrln prqxp no-ry ohbqs bgprw ohfru gab?l yynha nzrab qrobg rinuf lnjyn g'afr bqgvg nugfl htrug sbgfr erugy yrgqy hbufr jxavu ghblb q
"LOOKS PERFECTLY LOGICAL TO ME"
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!!!q arhe eior hgnv eeaq ardr hgfb srmn nrhG
!!!! qrnh ltge epfa jeao gauT
I thought i made it too easy
well in answer to the questions in your previous post using the V encryption system that you suggested with the pet name you mentioned as the key.
XVSLC BWTZV XGKXR RYGCM XFNFP MXYVN PWARJ QPRXY VDXKW KGYVX SWFLT HJGKC GKCJS MDDWZ EYCLA VIRDR SLIOJ XWKZM CBEDE MIMLV JKDDM EXECN YJVPX MLZEI IAIDV KQXVJ YGEHJ KYCHF SBZLV ZRLYY HBRTI CPLIU JGCVI KYCQH SBTYB XSLK
Where are we going and why am i in this handbasket?...
...Oh! always try to look on the bright side...
... Um anybody got any marshmellows.?
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.gvqr eribp fvqv? qenjr egavb cqhug abvyy vzrug grthb lqyhb ufluj -lxav c,hbl bgqan ...ro bggba fzrrf gvgho ,)rer uqrfh ri'vr qbprz nfrug .r.v( enfrn prpny cpn,u gvjgh bonqr xphzf rpncf ,gkrg qrfer irero lyczv fqyhb ufgvr ehffn jv,n- riyrj gqrln prqxp no-ry ohbqs bgprw ohfru gab?l yynha nzrab qrobg rinuf lnjyn g'afr bqgvg nugfl htrug sbgfr erugy yrgqy hbufr jxavu ghblb q
Jryy zbfg crbcyr fubhyq xabj gung tbbtyr vf gurve sevraq
and
!!!!rpvjq anrz bfyn anp ryohbQ
Where are we going and why am i in this handbasket?...
...Oh! always try to look on the bright side...
... Um anybody got any marshmellows.?
Re: Codes in the clacks
The redshift tells the true path of the stars and the 13th Redshift is the only path of wisdom. But it tells no answers.
Only the wise with eyes to see may divine the way of the Gnu!
The Smoking Gnu
--
"...We'll pick you up and take you away
and get down tonight!
Smokin, smokin..."
Re: Codes in the clacks
The redshift tells the true path of the stars and the 13th Redshift is the only path of wisdom. But it tells no answers.
Only the wise with eyes to see may divine the way of the Gnu!
Well mine may have been a disctraction
but the "But it tells no answers." makes me think of the "Twelve and a half percent" way of talking and that i am close to being correct if not all the way there.
but then i have read the book several times actually starting with the manuscript.
so has anybody else got clacks header info to share or are some of you hoarding the secrets?
Where are we going and why am i in this handbasket?...
...Oh! always try to look on the bright side...
... Um anybody got any marshmellows.?
Re: Codes in the clacks
i understand red shit but what book is this and how does one obtain it?
That ain't no English I ever dun heard!
Re: Codes in the clacks
i have read the book several times actually starting with the manuscript.
so has anybody else got clacks header info to share or are some of you hoarding the secrets?
I have gotten 3 headers from friends to whom I have sent clackses. they read:
OEBGURE FNFUB
PEBJQVR GUR FGEBAT
VCFYBER GUR ERQ
I don't think the book holds the key - i.e. it isn't necessarily in Going Postal, or any other book but rather the content itself may be the key.
HV - MMVII
Re: Codes in the clacks
all this is based on JC's shifting coder isn't it?the one made in circular form?isn't it just a metter of finding out letter spacings?
_O_
ll( )ll
_] [_
Re: Codes in the clacks
Well with the new names added if you take the first letter of each name we get
TMSBBCI
We don't know what order they were sent in and an anagram of the above makes TIMS BBC but i some how don't think so especially considering how well he did in Wimbledon
tho if we get a character name beginning in E we could have SMITE BBC but again i think its unlikely despite the SGNU's known use of a WOOODPECKER i doubt that using the clacks as a subliminal DOS on Auntie Beeb is really feasible or the SGNU's kind of thing at least it wasn't in my day tho i could be handing out blushing piscines if you consider my nickname and i have worn a horned helmet in public to confuse people into thinking in logic circles 
Where are we going and why am i in this handbasket?...
...Oh! always try to look on the bright side...
... Um anybody got any marshmellows.?
Re: Codes in the clacks
all this is based on JC's shifting coder isn't it?the one made in circular form?isn't it just a metter of finding out letter spacings?
Thats is i think just the first step in the puzzle.
Where are we going and why am i in this handbasket?...
...Oh! always try to look on the bright side...
... Um anybody got any marshmellows.?
Re: Codes in the clacks
i'm beginning to realise that
_O_
ll( )ll
_] [_
Re: Codes in the clacks
I had "AREFU GUR YHANGVP" (=> NERSH THE LUNATIC) in the clacks I sent.
And thanks to alex I know it is from guards! guards!
Re: Codes in the clacks
The latest clacks i received contained.
FVE JVYYVNZ OYHAG-VAFGEHZRAG
In the header info.
Where are we going and why am i in this handbasket?...
...Oh! always try to look on the bright side...
... Um anybody got any marshmellows.?
Re: Codes in the clacks
which in english is...?
That ain't no English I ever dun heard!
Re: Codes in the clacks
which in english is...?
It is in English or at least the Morporkian equivalent it is just also been ROT13ed
if we made it to obvious it would not be a minor challenge to the little grey cells. 
Where are we going and why am i in this handbasket?...
...Oh! always try to look on the bright side...
... Um anybody got any marshmellows.?
Re: Codes in the clacks
I think a few more clacks have been sent over the last couple of weeks so anybody willing to share the header info in them ?
Where are we going and why am i in this handbasket?...
...Oh! always try to look on the bright side...
... Um anybody got any marshmellows.?
Re: Codes in the clacks
The 05:00 I'm not sure about, ...
The 05:00 is actually -05:00 and it the time difference from GMT if I'm not mistaken. (I'd guess the servers are on the east coast of America?)
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