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Interesting - this problem was previosly encountered (and discussed here), and it was thought to be basically solved.

Mr Alley, could we borrow you for a minute: we need your help...

Mr Scrub

OK, changing from whatisreal to Subsilver did the trick for me as well, scrolling is much smoother now.

But that trick does not help when viewing other (i.e. non-forum) pages. Pages like thudgame.com and thudgame.com/events remain sluggish and slow.
It's not annoying, but still...

edit: Just did an experiment on above pages: one "click" on my scroll-wheel made the page scroll up (or down) in seven distinctive steps, taking approx half a second. Scrolling through the forum (using Subsilver!), one "click" covers the same "distance" in one step, immediately. Thought you might want to know.

I had thought the transparency caused a slight hiccup in firefox on Linux but it may be limited to SuSE as Ransom, who experienced severe scrolling problems, also runs SuSE (9.1). I use Mandriva 10.2 (LE 2005) and although there's a bit of a lag it's not as noticeable as he described. I had thought it was the PNG transparencies the theme originally used (we converted all to the GIFs Internet Exploder uses) but that may just an issue that accentuates the problem. Scrubby, you use Mandriva; are you having the same probs?

Sorry Oograh, we do want to sort the problem, not blame your distro. Can I ask, does SuSE use X.org or XFree86 still? And do you have the OpenGL libraries and X11Contribs installed?

Having said all that, I am working on 2 other themes (besides the dreadfully boring and dire subSilver, IMHO of course! ) for the forum, The first is a phpBB medieval theme that needs a few graphical touch-ups and the other is based on the thudgame site, itself, and will need some heavy CSS work but should be nice when finished.

All will be available to use but we might have a vote to see who likes what

Also, should anyone wish to knock up their own theme or modify a phpBB theme for us we will be glad to add to the collection and credit you on the site!

Cheers!

Yep, yep, and probably. I can't find X11Contribs with YAST, but SuSE tends to rename packages sometimes.
However, Googling for X11Contribs gives all of four hits, so I think this is something Mandriva-specific.

Yeah, on whatisreal there's about 1/3 -> 1/2 a second of lag between clicking and the scrolling taking place. However, I wouldnt take it too seriously in my case, becasue my computer is geriatric, and not (I dont think) very well set up, so most things happen pretty slowly (e.g. 5 seconds to get a flipping terminal (aterm) open and ready for use...)

New style looking good though (and no delay )

Mr Scrub

Indeed, very nice, and no delay here as well.

To let you know, Lee - SUSE used XFree until 9.2 (IIRC) but has moved to X.org.

It might even be an artefact of the NVidia driver (I use nv because the "official" binary nvidia driver never works properly for me)!

Oh, I wasn't aware of that. I assumed Lee was referring to one and the same product (XFree and X.org).

I do use NVidia drivers. I'll try to use nv for a sec, just to see if this is the source of the problem. Not just now though, some time later.

I need to bring this topic back into attention, sorry. The Big Forum Jump brought the sluggishness back, but not as severe as it used to be.
However, the last few days, it's back to Level One Annoying. I'm thinking this coincided with the google ads introduced. Could that be?
I'm at SuSE 10.1 now, btw.

That previous comment was written and posted on my laptop. Having spent a few minutes at my desktop computer just now, I have to say this runs smooth. Could this problem be graphics-card related?

FOr reference material: I use Fedora Core 5, the nv graphics card driver (fot that al;l so needed hardware accelrarion), adn I experience no notable pause between using my keyboard scrolling keys and a reaction.

Probably. When I work at the in-laws ancient (800Mhz Celeron) PC in Somerset it scrolls badly as well. I have an idea to optimise some semi-transparent graphics I'm going to try to test out to see if it doesn't speed things up, though.

it may not be graphics card related coz mine is pretty swish and i still have the scrolling issues.

Nvidia GeForce 6600, 256mb i think

I've altered the size of the semi-transparent background for IE and have shrunk the sixe of the background graphic eye-candy for proper browsers so I'd love to hear back on how they do. If folk could post things like which browser, CPU speed, OS etc. that would be really helpful

Cheers,

Lee,

It's still bad, sorry. Usually, it takes me one down (oops), one up (close, but still oops), and one slightly down (ahhh!) to find the point in the page I need. You'd think I would get used to that, but I don't, because this site is the only one that has this issue. So coming back here from browsing the web i find my scrolling finger's too fast again.

AMD Athlon XP-M 3000+, Firefox (copied straight from "about Firefox": Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; nl; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20060911 SUSE/1.5.0.7-1.2 Firefox/1.5.0.7), ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 graphics card, KDE under SuSE 10.1.

OK, I've taken out the sem-transparent background graphic and just put a black background in. Hopefully this will work better.